The following are sections out of Bill McKeever’s book In their Own Words: A Collection of Mormon Quotations. The full book of 400 pages is available at Mormonism Research Ministry or Amazon.com. 7th President Heber J. Grant “We of this Church have been told of the Lord that before we came to this earth we had a life running … Read more
By Bill McKeever and Eric Johnson Note: This article has been taken from chapter 4 (“Preexistence and the Second Estate”) in the book Mormonism 101: Examining the Religion of the Latter-day Saints (Baker, 2015), co-written by the two authors. The teaching of preexistence (also called premortality) says that “prior to their birth into mortality, all people were begotten … Read more
By Sharon Lindbloom 8 August 2017 MormonLeaks recently released “The McConkie Papers,” a series of 37 previously unpublished “sermons, lessons, and accounts” written by LDS Apostle Bruce R. McConkie. One of the files made available by MormonLeaks is “Answers Grounded in Truth,” a compilation of typed and (originally) handwritten, undated notes found in Mr. McConkie’s personal … Read more
During 2016, LDS members will be studying the latest manual published by their church, Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Howard W. Hunter We will evaluate this book regularly, chapter by chapter, by showing interesting quotes and providing an Evangelical Christian take on this manual. The text that is in boldfaced is from the manual, with our … Read more
Response to Allen Wyatt Rejoinder by John Divito In order to make this review easier to read, all original quotes from the Mormonism 201 rebuttal are boldfaced and italicized to separate these from the rest of the rejoinder. Allen L. Wyatt responded to chapter four of McKeever and Johnson’s text, “Preexistence and the Second Estate.” His … Read more
In Job 38:4, God questions Job and rebukes him for his pride, asking, “Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?” This is what is known as a rhetorical question. When God formed the world, Job 38:7 says, “The sons of God shouted for joy.” If this is really referring to preexistent … Read more
By Bill McKeever and Eric Johnson Mormons believe in a preexistence, where spirts once existed in what is known as the First Estate. Ecclesiastes 12:7 says, in part, that “the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.” This poetic book is describing how the body decomposes to “dust” and the spirit returns to God for judgment; this does not … Read more
By Bill McKeever and Eric Johnson Mormons believe in a preexistence, where spirits once existed in what is known as the First Estate. The Ensign magazine cited Hebrews 12:9 to support the doctrine of premortality, saying, “God is our Heavenly Father, a literal spiritual parent.”(“God is Truly Our Father,” Ensign, January 2010, 15). The verse from Hebrews reads, “Furthermore we have … Read more
By Bill McKeever and Eric Johnson
Certain biblical passages have been used by Latter-day Saints to back premortality, though they have to be taken out of their context to do so. One commonly-used proof text is Jeremiah 1:5, which says,
“Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.”
Preextistence/premortality: Also referred to as the First Estate or Pre-Mortal State. Mormonism teaches all humans lived near a planet called Kolob as God’s spirit children before coming to earth and taking on human form. Since God’s children could only progress so far in the pre-existence, it was necessary that they go through a probationary state here on earth in order to prove their worthiness to return to God’s presence and continue their eternal progression (Gospel Principles, p. 11).
Grand Council. Also referred to as “Council of the Gods” that took place in the pre-existence. According to Joseph Smith, this was the place where “in the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people it” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 349).
First Estate. The premortal life.
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Council in Heaven. A council of the gods held in the pre-existence to arrange for the creation and peopling of the earth. This council was called by Elohim, the “head of the Gods” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 349). Also present were Jehovah, Michael, and Lucifer. This council also determined how mankind would be saved.
Child of God. Humans are the literal children of God, born in the pre-existence as offspring of Heavenly Father and one of his heavenly wives. Christianity doesn’t agree, as the Bible says that the children of God are those adopted by faith. They are sinners who have trusted in Christ for their salvation.